[tor-talk] Facebook brute forcing hidden services

[rysiek@hackerspace.pl (rysiek)]

Dnia niedziela, 2 listopada 2014 02:17:50 tigrutigru@gmail.com pisze:
> I've been to FSCONS today session: "Blurry line between private service and
> public infrastructure" covering a problem with decentralised, federated
> services and platforms which can be used as an alternative to FB.

Well hullo tharr. :)

> There are many (Diaspora, Frendica, GNU social etc) , but use incompatible
> protocols, making it hard for users to choose, and fragmenting the
> community, making it look weak and small.

Well, Diaspora, Friendica and Red are already talking to each other with a 
common protocol; Friendica and StatusNet/GNU Social are also compatible. So 
The Federation (as was proposed to name the common network-of-social-networs) 
is already based on 4 different networks; others are finally starting to think 
about getting on the interoperability bandwagon.

Compare and contrast to what was going on 2 years ago:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-fedsocweb/2013May/0058.html

Tl;dr of that thread is "not invented here, impossiburu, we won't bother". 
Methinks we've done some progress.

> Another problem is that most of them don't have client API's and do have a
> sorry-looking interface.

Well, Diaspora's interface is really fine these days. Friendica needs a lot of 
love; Red I don't personally know.

Lack of client API is a huge problem, though. Here's a nice poll about what 
users want/need:
https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4304242

Client API wins hands down.

> However, if those platforms would be compatible and talk to each other - in
> a session it was called "The Federation", this problem of fragmentation and
> poor user database is solved.

Well, as I said, Diaspora, Friendica, Red and GNU Social are already talking 
with each other with common protocols.

> So far is the most promising solution I heard which can help to get people
> of Facebook hook, or at least use it when absolutely necessary, not to post
> your entire life on it.

Thanks; I was just describing what was happening on the libre side of social 
networking.

> Most "evil" services we use, just need a decent easy to use functional
> alternative.

That's the crux, right after getting a common protocol implemented across 
different federated social networks. Also consider:
http://rys.io/en/88

> In the actual lecture the federation of decentralised social networks is
> described from the 28th minute https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R_uvYp3fog4

And here are the slides:
http://rys.io/static/Blurry-line-between-private-service-and-public-infrastructure-FSCONS2014.pdf
http://rys.io/static/Blurry-line-between-private-service-and-public-infrastructure-FSCONS2014.odp

Also, please join us at The Federation Assembly at #31C3:
https://events.ccc.de/congress/2014/wiki/Assembly:The_Federation

-- 
Pozdr
rysiek
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